NO, the Moses Model is completely unorthodox and is faulty and
gives rise to cult like leadership with NO academic and sometimes even
spiritual accountability.

I was an assisting Pastor of CC out here in Minnesota for nine years. I think I know how the process works. I wrote the by-laws for the church.  I know the "model" well and how they "pick" pastors. It's a farce.

A "board" of Pastors? lol  For what?
The only time I see a bunch of pastors together was to go surfing or "chill out" at a conference. The only accountability a CC Pastor has is with the Pastor (singular) who sent him out and the elders in which that Pastor decides for himself who He wants!  Oh Yeah, THAT'S accountable. Hand Pick guys that YOU want.... that's a recipe for disaster. And Accountability? How's Chucks Son doing? Still contemplating his Naval? How many other pastors have gotten busted for having affairs (with nothing but a wrist slap form Chuck) or how many lately have gotten busted for making porn movies INCLUDING their wives?  And they get their pastorates BACK, within the same YEAR? ..... LOL

I have know many Calvary Pastors get the boot because of the board. It
is usually over sexual immorality or bad doctrines. Look at Chucks son.
He is out of Calvary Chapel. He took the dove off of his Church.

Restore Him to the congregation, yes.
To the pulpit, NO.

He is not above reproach and has "disqualified" Himself.
Sloppy agape. Where is the example of purity and excellence and holiness?
Where is the example of God's Holiness and the consequences of sin?
It mocks the Holiness of God. Hey, if the pastor can have an affair and get away with it.... what the heck?

But this is only an OUTCOME of an improper Church structure anyhow. Which is the point of the thread.

It's defintely not the Moses Model.

In the NT Jesus is the new Moses and we are all under him.  So, from the outset the "Moses Model" is not the perferred model.

Then one must look at the text in Scripture that speak of Elders in the local congregation, and they are: 1 Timothy 3, Titus 1, 1 Thes. 5:12, 13, Hebrews 13:17, 1 Peter 5, along with Ephesians 4...

When you look at those texts there is a stream of thought that leadership in the local congregation is by a plurality of elders (or pastors because the terms are interchangeable) and not by a theocratic ruler. However, this doesn't mean that everyone will teach within the local congregation, there actually might be one man who is gifted in teaching far above another and he will teach week by week, but he is on the same level within the eldership/leadership in the church.

Also, we can't forget the deacons.

So there are Elders/Overseers/Pastors (the Spiritual leadership) and then Deacons (they meet the physical needs of the local congregation).

I was in a CC for years and their structure really isn't condusive for proper Biblical accountability.  Moreover, much of the teaching, thought they are teaching the Bible, isn't the whole counsel of God. You can say what the Bible says, but that doesn't mean you are saying what the Bible means, and that is what I find in CC...

Just my 2 cents.

In Christ,
Mike

I grew up in the baptist system, I have seen too many pastors only pick
yes men for the deacons,

The Baptist's? Really? Well, allot of different TYPES aren't there... oh well... I totally agree with you. Though even in the "Acts" church as a whole had leaders "elders/presbyters".

Traditionally the Baptist's "pastors" are only an "elder" amongst elders on the board and only has one vote in ANYTHING the church does. THIS is accountability.

The pastor does not hold ANY power over the church at all. He is just an elder.
That's why if he starts going looney, he is subject to a board that can dismiss him. THAT is accountability.

It's defintely not the Moses Model.

In the NT Jesus is the new Moses and we are all under him.  So, from the outset the "Moses Model" is not the perferred model.

Then one must look at the text in Scripture that speak of Elders in the local congregation, and they are: 1 Timothy 3, Titus 1, 1 Thes. 5:12, 13, Hebrews 13:17, 1 Peter 5, along with Ephesians 4...

When you look at those texts there is a stream of thought that leadership in the local congregation is by a plurality of elders (or pastors because the terms are interchangeable) and not by a theocratic ruler. However, this doesn't mean that everyone will teach within the local congregation, there actually might be one man who is gifted in teaching far above another and he will teach week by week, but he is on the same level within the eldership/leadership in the church.

Also, we can't forget the deacons.

So there are Elders/Overseers/Pastors (the Spiritual leadership) and then Deacons (they meet the physical needs of the local congregation).

I was in a CC for years and their structure really isn't condusive for proper Biblical accountability.  Moreover, much of the teaching, thought they are teaching the Bible, isn't the whole counsel of God. You can say what the Bible says, but that doesn't mean you are saying what the Bible means, and that is what I find in CC...

Just my 2 cents.

In Christ,
Mike

You missed the point.



A pastor is God in his local church, If he handpicks deacons. he is
not held accountable. The baptist church does not come and check on
pastors. they are their own leader.